Sunaura Taylor makes a few statements in this video that I find particularly striking: 1. That physical access leads to social access and ultimately acceptance. Such as the presence of sidewalk ramps allowing her to take "walks" in her community, this increases her social access. 2. That people have a hard time seeing body parts used in unfamiliar ways, such as when she orders a coffee and carries it away with her mouth. When I was younger I remember watching a TV show about a woman who was born with no arms. She learned to use her feet like hands and was able to eat, drive, and care for her new baby all without arms. We are shocked when we see body parts used in unfamiliar ways because our social access to lifestyles different from our own is so limited. 3. She asks the question, in between death and health, according to society, when do you still count as human? I have never thought of society being uncomfortable with physical disability because it reminds us of bodily aging and death.
After watching the video, I decided to reflect on the links that I see between gender and disability.
Gender and disability are often discriminated against by laws and society. For example, transgender people are still fighting for access to restrooms that reflect their gender whereas people with limited movement have to worry about having access to restrooms when they go out in public. Accessibility to restrooms should be of no worry to any individual. Both are constantly being judged by society’s false ideologies which result in being analyzed for the way they move, walk, talk, use their body parts, dress, look and etc. These groups of people are societally oppressed meaning they are subject to racism, do not have as many rights as other citizens and unfair punishments.
My overall thoughts after viewing this video is that regardless of our bodily form or how we identify ourselves to be, basic human needs are the same. As an example from the video, if we have a plum tree in our yard, we want to taste the plums. Those of us who have the ability to pick the plums, will pick the plums; those of us who do not, will have to wait for them to drop, unless we ask for help. We find ways to make sense of our world with the resources we have at our “fingertips;” (figuratively and actually; just like ‘going for a walk’).
I refer back to the beginning of the video when they talk about her living in San Francisco. The quote was “It must be nice to not have to be the pioneer in being handicapped and taking a walk.” She was happy to be able to be a member of a community in which she blended; as we are who do not have “disabling affects of society.” We all want this despite our identity.
Finally, as humans we make use of what we have in the simplest form. If we have the ability to walk; we do. If we have the ability to use our hands; we do. If we do not have these resources, we find ways to utilize other faculties to get the job done. If we do not have other faculties to get the job done; we ask for help.
This video presented few interesting ideas. The first one is the idea that help is something that we all need , regardless of our age, race, social class and gender. In today's society many times help is associated with lack of power and non self-sufficiency, but in this video Judith Butler demonstrates that as humans we all need help. Disabled people are seen as powerless and dependent for needing help, but if we take a closer look at ourselves I'm sure that at some time in our life we also needed help.For example, Taylor mentioned she has a plum in her backyard but has to wait for the plums to drop, but what if you are not disabled but are short and not able to reach the plums? Our first thought is to ask for help. Therefore, this idea made we realize that the society has linked help with lack of power and dependency, but we must all agree that as humans we have the right to ask for help and the duty of helping others in need. Another interesting idea is that physical access leads to social access and social acceptance. Taylor states San Francisco's accessibility, such curb cuts, accessible buildings and transportation leads to social acceptance. She is able to fit in the society like t most of us, as Butler states “It must be nice to not have to be the pioneer in being handicapped and taking a walk."
After viewing the video Examined Life, the Sunaura and Judith brought to light some important aspects about the site of human interdependency. A simple task such as getting a cup of coffee for an able-bodied individual becomes a political protest for a person with an impairment where she has to request or even demand help. Unfortunately, the idea of needing help is looked down upon. Most people will stand and stare in astonishment. As a result of her impairment, she has moved to San Francisco where the physical accessibility opens doors for increased number of people with an impairment. As a result, there is a degree of acceptance and social acceptability. The physical access leads to a social acceptance. As an able-bodied individual, physical barriers are not in my purview. I have come to realize the importance of accessibility when helping a friend who is near and dear me care for her son. At times I would go shopping with her and her son who has an impairment and requires special attention. I have found a new level of respect for the challenges she has to deal with on a daily basis.
There are many barriers in society from social to physical that challenges our experiences in life. In a site of human interdependence our basic needs for survival is that we’re all in need of each other. We need a place of love and belongingness.
"Physical access actually leads to social access and acceptance". This quote stated by Taylor at the beginning of the video really resonated with me. I never would have thought that San Diego was the most accessible place. In it being so, there are more people residing there that have physical impairments due to the ease in which they can access stores, sidewalks and public transportation. Taylor went on to describe an interesting notion that there is a false idea that the abled body is radically self sufficient. Our bodies that are not physically impaired in some way still need help and rely on support.
When Taylor shared her story regarding the plum tree in her backyard and how she has to wait for the plums to fall where as someone who is abled body might be able to reach up and pick it, I instantly thought of my grandmother. My grandmother didn't grow up having a physical impairment, she had a stroke when I was 7 that left her wheelchair bound. I am so thankful for her because she taught me at a young age to be thankful for simple things like reaching for pepper in a cabinet. She would have this tool she would always call her claw. It was used to reach for objects that were out of arms reach. Having someone close to me with a physical impairment made me so aware of how society isn't always accepting and how so many places are not accessible. To this day when I visit places I look to see if they have ramps or wide enough doors for those in wheelchairs to get through. This connects with what Taylor was saying when she explained the difference between impairment and disability. Impairment is more over the medical label. Whereas disability refers to the disability effects of society. The social repression of disabled people. The limited careers, housing options, etc.
The idea of help is what stuck out most to me in this video. Needing help is always looked down upon. I remember as a student in high school I was always afraid to ask questions if I did not understand what was going on because I was afraid of looking stupid or weak. Asking for help can also put the burden onto someone else, and maybe we do not want to add our problems onto someone else's plate. For example, Sanauara helped Judith try on the shirt at the clothing store. While Sanauara did not see this as burden to herself, it still involved her in a problem Judith had. This scenario made me wonder what is it that makes us hesitate to ask for help, is it out of embarrassment or not wanting to add your own problems to someone else's? Are we selfish or selfless in this reasoning? Maybe a little of both? I wish we were all so comfortable asking for help. It makes a statement when someone asks for help because it shows that that person is comfortable with who they are and what they can do. Judith said that she would be making a statement by asking someone to help her carry her coffee to a table after ordering it. This made me wonder, if we were all very comfortable asking for help and making these statements then would needing help and showing one's vulnerabilities be a stigma? I hope not.
For me, Butler’s and Taylor’s discussion about our interdependency as people was so incredibly powerful. At one point, Butler states that we ALL need each other to address our basic needs as people. “I want to organize a social and political world on the basis of that recognition,” says Butler. This is so radical and key, especially in our teaching practice. Conceptualizing disability as a jumping off point for teaching community care and combatting individualism is a powerful idea. I think that we have a responsibility as educators to do this work in our classrooms. Although this is easier said than done in a society riddled with individualism and ableist perspectives, if we can start to build spaces where we are taught to care for one another in our school communities, we can begin to model what we hope to see in the world and our communities at-large. We can certainly learn from other communities that are already doing this work and have always operated in this way.
After watching this video I'd like to reflect on some of the comments made during the video. "Because there's physical access...people have learned to interact and are used to them in a certain way. Physical access leads to a social access." This resonated with me because I think this connects to many topics we have discussed in class. With more social access to a range of people and situations, people are more likely to be accepting because they learn from personal experiences instead of learning from other's stories. The physical access that people have access in this area of the U.S. allows for dis/abled individuals to have more interactions with one another and learn from each other instead of being sheltered and thus miss out on experiences and the social interactions. "Help is something that we all need...looked down upon...not taken care of in our society..." Seeking help is something I have read articles on through work professional developments. As stated, in our society seeking help is viewed as a weakness in our society, but in fact we all need help in one way or another. Instead of viewing needed help as a deficit, people can view the act of seeking help as an asset because there are opportunities to learn from one another and both people (the seeker and the helper) can learn and grow.
Sunaura’s reasons for living in San Francisco really stuck out to me. She mentioned how accessible the city was for her and how it was easier for her to move around and go about her day. It’s crazy to think that disabled people have to consider how accessible a place is before they can live there. This is something that should be considered by engineers, architects, business owners and government officials when constructing sidewalks, roadways, buildings, businesses, hospitals, playgrounds, parks, and public areas. People of all abilities should be able to live and enjoy life. Sunaura also mentioned how she felt comfortable in San Francisco because of the number disabled people throughout the community. This made me think about how many disabled people live in my community and how many disabled people live in my students community. According to the 2016 U.S Census 10% (17,921 ppl) of Providence residents are disabled, 11.9% (8500 ppl) of Pawtucket residents are disabled, and 6.2% (53,995 ppl) of San Francisco residents are disabled. The next time I go out somewhere in my community I will definitely be thinking about accessibility for disabled people. I wonder what disabled people think about getting around in Lil'Rhody.
Towards the very end of the video, Judith Butler mentions that what’s at stake is rethinking the human as a site of interdependence. This, on a personal level, is a very scary notion because I avoid dependence at all costs. For a moment, as she described having to ask for someone to help with the coffee cup, I imagined myself struggling with the decision of having to look for someone for help. The vulnerability in that split moment would be stifling enough for me to possibly leave the coffee shop without my drink. In terms of my classroom, I make every effort to create a community of supportive learners. I expect students to want to help one another but I must admit that I haven’t thought of it from the perspective of the student needing the help. I need to reassess how I make help available to students that are struggling. For those who struggle with dependence, I need to make sure that I reinforce that we are all interdependent while minimizing the degree to which students need to make themselves vulnerable. Sunaura explained that simple things around the city of San Francisco such as access into buildings and onto sidewalks helps in creating a different type of norm for people who live there. The same can be accomplished in a classroom where lessons are tailored to be accessible to all types of learners.
After watching this video of Judith Butler and Sunaura Taylor take a walk, a part that particularly resonated with me was the difference between impairment and disability. Sunaura claims that her impairment, as it is deemed by the medical world, is just that - an effect on the body. Disability, on the other hand, is "the social repression of disabled people." I had never considered that there could be a difference between these two terms before. But knowing this now, I can see how society's general apprehension, sometimes borderline disgust/hatred of disabled peoples is a central aspect of understanding and critically thinking about disability studies.
A few comments made throughout the video really stuck with me while reflecting.
First, Sunaura Taylor speaks about "normalized movements" while explaining the anxiety she experiences before simply entering a coffee shop. When she orders a coffee, she carries and drinks using only her mouth and receives strange looks or disapproval from the people around her. Despite the fact that she can navigate the world around her and enjoy a cup of coffee, because it goes against the "normalized" way of movement, it is not acceptable. People are uncertain when dealing with things that are "different," but it really begs the question of what is normal, and who decided what was different from that normal?
An additional moment in the video that really stood out to me was when the camera showed a single shoe, and the two make comments about someone missing a shoe, and questioning whether that person could get on with their day without it. I found this to be a subtle yet powerful image (and subsequent commentary) about how people labeled as "disabled" are missing something that may prevent them from carrying on with daily activities. During reflection, I thought about the things that I need in order to get through my day and the things that could possibly inhibit the way I currently live my life.
I am struck by the absolute obviousness and profundity of Judith Butler’s observations about walking. All persons, dis- or able-bodied, require a set of structures to support movement in space. “Maybe we have a false idea that the able-bodied person is somehow radically self-sufficient.” I am enveloped in realization and shame: I have a false idea notion about the freedom with which I move as a consequence of my body and not my environment. Yes, they are inextricably enmeshed, but the fact that I have not considered the structures in my environment as integral components to my physical movement rather than what they do not support for others is simply arrogant.
I am also struck by the irony of Sunaura Taylor’s sentiments regarding the limited access“disabled” people have to job opportunities. Many American jobs, particularly high paying jobs, require very little physical movement and yet individuals who cannot move in ways accepted by society as “normal” are oftentimes excluded from such opportunities. I cannot help to reiterate Butler’s inquiry, “Do we or do we not live in a society in which we help each other?”
As a special educator, thinking in the same frame of mind as Sunaura Taylor is a way of life for me. How will Jimmy get into this building, how will Daisy manipulate these items, how will I teach Johnny to ride public transportation? These are things I think of each and every day. How can I make such and such more accessible for Christopher? As we know, people with disabilities are often treated differently in some form or another. However, Sunaura feels that her disability is accepted in her community, more so than any she has been a part of before. She believes this to be true mainly because everything in her community is physically accessible. There are no places she cannot go or have access to. I can’t help but agree with that statement. I mean if it becomes the culture, it would be more widely accepted. I find Sunaura fascinating, and am going to look into more about her.
Sunaura Taylor makes a few statements in this video that I find particularly striking: 1. That physical access leads to social access and ultimately acceptance. Such as the presence of sidewalk ramps allowing her to take "walks" in her community, this increases her social access.
ReplyDelete2. That people have a hard time seeing body parts used in unfamiliar ways, such as when she orders a coffee and carries it away with her mouth.
When I was younger I remember watching a TV show about a woman who was born with no arms. She learned to use her feet like hands and was able to eat, drive, and care for her new baby all without arms. We are shocked when we see body parts used in unfamiliar ways because our social access to lifestyles different from our own is so limited.
3. She asks the question, in between death and health, according to society, when do you still count as human? I have never thought of society being uncomfortable with physical disability because it reminds us of bodily aging and death.
After watching the video, I decided to reflect on the links that I see between gender and disability.
ReplyDeleteGender and disability are often discriminated against by laws and society. For example, transgender people are still fighting for access to restrooms that reflect their gender whereas people with limited movement have to worry about having access to restrooms when they go out in public. Accessibility to restrooms should be of no worry to any individual.
Both are constantly being judged by society’s false ideologies which result in being analyzed for the way they move, walk, talk, use their body parts, dress, look and etc.
These groups of people are societally oppressed meaning they are subject to racism, do not have as many rights as other citizens and unfair punishments.
My overall thoughts after viewing this video is that regardless of our bodily form or how we identify ourselves to be, basic human needs are the same. As an example from the video, if we have a plum tree in our yard, we want to taste the plums. Those of us who have the ability to pick the plums, will pick the plums; those of us who do not, will have to wait for them to drop, unless we ask for help. We find ways to make sense of our world with the resources we have at our “fingertips;” (figuratively and actually; just like ‘going for a walk’).
ReplyDeleteI refer back to the beginning of the video when they talk about her living in San Francisco. The quote was “It must be nice to not have to be the pioneer in being handicapped and taking a walk.” She was happy to be able to be a member of a community in which she blended; as we are who do not have “disabling affects of society.” We all want this despite our identity.
Finally, as humans we make use of what we have in the simplest form. If we have the ability to walk; we do. If we have the ability to use our hands; we do. If we do not have these resources, we find ways to utilize other faculties to get the job done. If we do not have other faculties to get the job done; we ask for help.
This video presented few interesting ideas. The first one is the idea that help is something that we all need , regardless of our age, race, social class and gender. In today's society many times help is associated with lack of power and non self-sufficiency, but in this video Judith Butler demonstrates that as humans we all need help. Disabled people are seen as powerless and dependent for needing help, but if we take a closer look at ourselves I'm sure that at some time in our life we also needed help.For example, Taylor mentioned she has a plum in her backyard but has to wait for the plums to drop, but what if you are not disabled but are short and not able to reach the plums? Our first thought is to ask for help. Therefore, this idea made we realize that the society has linked help with lack of power and dependency, but we must all agree that as humans we have the right to ask for help and the duty of helping others in need.
ReplyDeleteAnother interesting idea is that physical access leads to social access and social acceptance. Taylor states San Francisco's accessibility, such curb cuts, accessible buildings and transportation leads to social acceptance. She is able to fit in the society like t most of us, as Butler states “It must be nice to not have to be the pioneer in being handicapped and taking a walk."
After viewing the video Examined Life, the Sunaura and Judith brought to light some important aspects about the site of human interdependency. A simple task such as getting a cup of coffee for an able-bodied individual becomes a political protest for a person with an impairment where she has to request or even demand help. Unfortunately, the idea of needing help is looked down upon. Most people will stand and stare in astonishment. As a result of her impairment, she has moved to San Francisco where the physical accessibility opens doors for increased number of people with an impairment. As a result, there is a degree of acceptance and social acceptability. The physical access leads to a social acceptance. As an able-bodied individual, physical barriers are not in my purview. I have come to realize the importance of accessibility when helping a friend who is near and dear me care for her son. At times I would go shopping with her and her son who has an impairment and requires special attention. I have found a new level of respect for the challenges she has to deal with on a daily basis.
ReplyDeleteThere are many barriers in society from social to physical that challenges our experiences in life. In a site of human interdependence our basic needs for survival is that we’re all in need of each other. We need a place of love and belongingness.
"Physical access actually leads to social access and acceptance". This quote stated by Taylor at the beginning of the video really resonated with me. I never would have thought that San Diego was the most accessible place. In it being so, there are more people residing there that have physical impairments due to the ease in which they can access stores, sidewalks and public transportation. Taylor went on to describe an interesting notion that there is a false idea that the abled body is radically self sufficient. Our bodies that are not physically impaired in some way still need help and rely on support.
ReplyDeleteWhen Taylor shared her story regarding the plum tree in her backyard and how she has to wait for the plums to fall where as someone who is abled body might be able to reach up and pick it, I instantly thought of my grandmother. My grandmother didn't grow up having a physical impairment, she had a stroke when I was 7 that left her wheelchair bound. I am so thankful for her because she taught me at a young age to be thankful for simple things like reaching for pepper in a cabinet. She would have this tool she would always call her claw. It was used to reach for objects that were out of arms reach. Having someone close to me with a physical impairment made me so aware of how society isn't always accepting and how so many places are not accessible. To this day when I visit places I look to see if they have ramps or wide enough doors for those in wheelchairs to get through. This connects with what Taylor was saying when she explained the difference between impairment and disability. Impairment is more over the medical label. Whereas disability refers to the disability effects of society. The social repression of disabled people. The limited careers, housing options, etc.
The idea of help is what stuck out most to me in this video. Needing help is always looked down upon. I remember as a student in high school I was always afraid to ask questions if I did not understand what was going on because I was afraid of looking stupid or weak. Asking for help can also put the burden onto someone else, and maybe we do not want to add our problems onto someone else's plate. For example, Sanauara helped Judith try on the shirt at the clothing store. While Sanauara did not see this as burden to herself, it still involved her in a problem Judith had. This scenario made me wonder what is it that makes us hesitate to ask for help, is it out of embarrassment or not wanting to add your own problems to someone else's? Are we selfish or selfless in this reasoning? Maybe a little of both? I wish we were all so comfortable asking for help. It makes a statement when someone asks for help because it shows that that person is comfortable with who they are and what they can do. Judith said that she would be making a statement by asking someone to help her carry her coffee to a table after ordering it. This made me wonder, if we were all very comfortable asking for help and making these statements then would needing help and showing one's vulnerabilities be a stigma? I hope not.
ReplyDeleteFor me, Butler’s and Taylor’s discussion about our interdependency as people was so incredibly powerful. At one point, Butler states that we ALL need each other to address our basic needs as people. “I want to organize a social and political world on the basis of that recognition,” says Butler. This is so radical and key, especially in our teaching practice. Conceptualizing disability as a jumping off point for teaching community care and combatting individualism is a powerful idea. I think that we have a responsibility as educators to do this work in our classrooms. Although this is easier said than done in a society riddled with individualism and ableist perspectives, if we can start to build spaces where we are taught to care for one another in our school communities, we can begin to model what we hope to see in the world and our communities at-large. We can certainly learn from other communities that are already doing this work and have always operated in this way.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching this video I'd like to reflect on some of the comments made during the video.
ReplyDelete"Because there's physical access...people have learned to interact and are used to them in a certain way. Physical access leads to a social access." This resonated with me because I think this connects to many topics we have discussed in class. With more social access to a range of people and situations, people are more likely to be accepting because they learn from personal experiences instead of learning from other's stories. The physical access that people have access in this area of the U.S. allows for dis/abled individuals to have more interactions with one another and learn from each other instead of being sheltered and thus miss out on experiences and the social interactions.
"Help is something that we all need...looked down upon...not taken care of in our society..." Seeking help is something I have read articles on through work professional developments. As stated, in our society seeking help is viewed as a weakness in our society, but in fact we all need help in one way or another. Instead of viewing needed help as a deficit, people can view the act of seeking help as an asset because there are opportunities to learn from one another and both people (the seeker and the helper) can learn and grow.
ReplyDeleteSunaura’s reasons for living in San Francisco really stuck out to me. She mentioned how accessible the city was for her and how it was easier for her to move around and go about her day. It’s crazy to think that disabled people have to consider how accessible a place is before they can live there. This is something that should be considered by engineers, architects, business owners and government officials when constructing sidewalks, roadways, buildings, businesses, hospitals, playgrounds, parks, and public areas. People of all abilities should be able to live and enjoy life.
Sunaura also mentioned how she felt comfortable in San Francisco because of the number disabled people throughout the community. This made me think about how many disabled people live in my community and how many disabled people live in my students community. According to the 2016 U.S Census 10% (17,921 ppl) of Providence residents are disabled, 11.9% (8500 ppl) of Pawtucket residents are disabled, and 6.2% (53,995 ppl) of San Francisco residents are disabled. The next time I go out somewhere in my community I will definitely be thinking about accessibility for disabled people. I wonder what disabled people think about getting around in Lil'Rhody.
Towards the very end of the video, Judith Butler mentions that what’s at stake is rethinking the human as a site of interdependence. This, on a personal level, is a very scary notion because I avoid dependence at all costs. For a moment, as she described having to ask for someone to help with the coffee cup, I imagined myself struggling with the decision of having to look for someone for help. The vulnerability in that split moment would be stifling enough for me to possibly leave the coffee shop without my drink.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of my classroom, I make every effort to create a community of supportive learners. I expect students to want to help one another but I must admit that I haven’t thought of it from the perspective of the student needing the help. I need to reassess how I make help available to students that are struggling. For those who struggle with dependence, I need to make sure that I reinforce that we are all interdependent while minimizing the degree to which students need to make themselves vulnerable. Sunaura explained that simple things around the city of San Francisco such as access into buildings and onto sidewalks helps in creating a different type of norm for people who live there. The same can be accomplished in a classroom where lessons are tailored to be accessible to all types of learners.
After watching this video of Judith Butler and Sunaura Taylor take a walk, a part that particularly resonated with me was the difference between impairment and disability. Sunaura claims that her impairment, as it is deemed by the medical world, is just that - an effect on the body. Disability, on the other hand, is "the social repression of disabled people." I had never considered that there could be a difference between these two terms before. But knowing this now, I can see how society's general apprehension, sometimes borderline disgust/hatred of disabled peoples is a central aspect of understanding and critically thinking about disability studies.
ReplyDeleteA few comments made throughout the video really stuck with me while reflecting.
ReplyDeleteFirst, Sunaura Taylor speaks about "normalized movements" while explaining the anxiety she experiences before simply entering a coffee shop. When she orders a coffee, she carries and drinks using only her mouth and receives strange looks or disapproval from the people around her. Despite the fact that she can navigate the world around her and enjoy a cup of coffee, because it goes against the "normalized" way of movement, it is not acceptable. People are uncertain when dealing with things that are "different," but it really begs the question of what is normal, and who decided what was different from that normal?
An additional moment in the video that really stood out to me was when the camera showed a single shoe, and the two make comments about someone missing a shoe, and questioning whether that person could get on with their day without it. I found this to be a subtle yet powerful image (and subsequent commentary) about how people labeled as "disabled" are missing something that may prevent them from carrying on with daily activities. During reflection, I thought about the things that I need in order to get through my day and the things that could possibly inhibit the way I currently live my life.
I am struck by the absolute obviousness and profundity of Judith Butler’s observations about walking. All persons, dis- or able-bodied, require a set of structures to support movement in space. “Maybe we have a false idea that the able-bodied person is somehow radically self-sufficient.” I am enveloped in realization and shame: I have a false idea notion about the freedom with which I move as a consequence of my body and not my environment. Yes, they are inextricably enmeshed, but the fact that I have not considered the structures in my environment as integral components to my physical movement rather than what they do not support for others is simply arrogant.
ReplyDeleteI am also struck by the irony of Sunaura Taylor’s sentiments regarding the limited access“disabled” people have to job opportunities. Many American jobs, particularly high paying jobs, require very little physical movement and yet individuals who cannot move in ways accepted by society as “normal” are oftentimes excluded from such opportunities. I cannot help to reiterate Butler’s inquiry, “Do we or do we not live in a society in which we help each other?”
As a special educator, thinking in the same frame of mind as Sunaura Taylor is a way of life for me. How will Jimmy get into this building, how will Daisy manipulate these items, how will I teach Johnny to ride public transportation? These are things I think of each and every day. How can I make such and such more accessible for Christopher? As we know, people with disabilities are often treated differently in some form or another. However, Sunaura feels that her disability is accepted in her community, more so than any she has been a part of before. She believes this to be true mainly because everything in her community is physically accessible. There are no places she cannot go or have access to. I can’t help but agree with that statement. I mean if it becomes the culture, it would be more widely accepted. I find Sunaura fascinating, and am going to look into more about her.
ReplyDelete